CoMmunity Jam auto filter
If a creation is skipped and has no likes after X amount of plays, it gets dropped from the jam.
This would mean most people wouldn’t see the low effort / off topic creations and make the voting experience a lot less tedious.
So to stop Pewdie pie’s mates from gaming the system, you have cool down timers on a person that skips two creations in a row (or whatever amount of times... maybe we don’t disclose that information to Pewdie pie or his friends) then 1 person or 1 group doesn’t have any control over the voting.
The cool down wouldn’t be visible on the players side, it would just stop registering their (no like skips) as (no like skips)
It’s probably is a silly idea. I saw a lot of people whinging over it, so I thought this idea might help.
I’ll send a firmly worded email to Pewdie Pie and his vote meddling mates and tell them, Enough is enough, ya hear!??
Yes, i agree with "KemwerSeth", you will have people like Pew De Pie that can just make whatever and get a million likes, and it will auto kick the nameless underdogs that creating masterpieces.
Yes I agree that this isn't a good idea.
If you only display things that are performing well then that creates a positive feedback loop. It would definitely make voting easier and more fun but bias and therefor unfair.
Not keen on this as a solution. In fact any user based system of downvoting, skipping or disliking is open to abuse, and I have seen this completely destroy a community feed in the past (Project Spark). One of my solutions is to have a team of people removing the off topic and troll entries before the voting starts. This would not take more than a day to do. I am sure there would be volunteers to take part in this, and there could be failsafes even within that team (if there were concerns at the trustworthiness or ability of the volunteers) on what gets removed (such as it gets removed only if 2 or more volunteers mark it for removal).
Here is my suggestion to make the gamejams more interesting, fair and less of a slog.
The last gamejam had an indeterminate amount of entries over 1000 (the feed could not cope to show over the 1000 mark). Voting in the gamejam with that level of entries is going to be tedious. Even if you removed the rubbish (which in the last jam was 43%) you are still going to get 600 or more entries to vote on. This is not particularly feasible for the conscientious voter. What needs to be done is to limit the amount of entries. I recommend having gamejams where you have to be under or over a certain Dreamer level. That way you limit the amount of participants, and you are competing with people with the same amount of experience, making it much fairer as a competition. You alternate gamejams for lower ranking, mid ranking and high ranking Dreamers. Such as Dreamer level 35 and under, Dreamer level 36-99, Dreamer level over 100
While I totally agree with the issue of low effort and off-topic creations on Jams, I feel that most ideas to allow voting them down/away would make the system vulnerable to vote brigading, i.e. a legion of Pew De Pie fans showing up upvote their silly baby creations while removing proper entries from average dreamers.
This is certainly a possibility with your suggestion, as a large number of users skipping creations a minute after voting opens could trigger a creation to be removed. You would need to start adding more and more exception rules to prevent this, at which point the whole system becomes too cumbersome to be maintainable.
I don't really know of an automated way to address this; reporting entries and having moderators check them individually sounds to me like the only reliable way to avoid brigading, but it would require a lot of manual labor to maintain.
@mBergs, yeah but I think it’s something that can be tested and tuned before being implemented. Have creations flagged as deleted (not actually deleted) then they can make sure the right stuff is being removed from voting.
It wouldn’t need to be public, or for the creator to know it’s been dropped and would still show up in the final list of entries. It would just fall out if the voting lineup.
This sounds like a good idea, but I worry about a few things. My worry is that a system like this might flag content that just hasn't been voted on, but isn't necessarily bad or low quality. I would hate for a new player's first entry to be filtered out, just because it didn't stack up against another creators.
A passive filter like this, as opposed to a "dislike" or "downvote" button, seems to be more in keeping with the positive interactions design within Dreams. Downvoting is also kinda just against the spirit of the jam.
Either this or simply let people flag creations directly as off topic to get them filtered out.
Seems like a great way of tackling the off topic submissions